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valkea	Blast Radius		Lead	[-]
Posts: 794 20-Nov-07 06:23 Registered User	Tags : None Blast Radius it is! An HQ game on a map like that shoulnd't get too prolonged, with the deployment areas so close to each other, and nowhere safe to put the HQs. I'm thinking two MTs, if mechs - or, if marines, some naders to take down walls, and a couple of snipers or commys. LSN NAME: valkea LOCATION:: Finland, GMT +2 ALLIANCE: Rogue Element. "Scanners scan, missiles spam, the rest is mopping up."
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Indricotherium	Re: Blast Radius	#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 5777 20-Nov-07 17:27 Budda on an anthill	Itend to agree. I think it's going to be a Mech fest, especially as green has more cover than we do. So IMO we have to be harder hitting than they are. Of course, a proper anti-Mech Marine squad might be just the trick. Of course, if they go Marine, they'll be able to Sniper/Commie drill to our HQs faster than we can in return. And where the heck is Oddball!? I'm emailing him. LSN:Indricotherium, GMT-5, League:Elite, Alliance:Doomed, Specialist:L.O.G.
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valkea	Re: Blast Radius	#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 794 20-Nov-07 18:49 Registered User	I think the chances are that MT-heavy mechs with HTs and a scanner will locate and take out the HQs before sniper/commie marines can get to the bases, or destroy the tanks. I had a very tight Alliance game against Prismatic on this map on my first season. I'd deployed greys in the green area, and he tank heavy-mechs in the blue. On turn 5/30 he'd already blitzkrieged his way to the building on the top left. And that was just with one MT. Any regens would've been long gone before turn 10 (Fortunately I'd gone guerilla, and didn't have any...) So, a straightforward missile bombardment to the bases is definitely a very viable alternative. I wonder what a succesful anti-deployment for that would be? Or clever placement of the HQs? ponders the possibility of deploying more than 2 HQs - how does 5 sound? LSN NAME: valkea LOCATION:: Finland, GMT +2 ALLIANCE: Rogue Element. "Scanners scan, missiles spam, the rest is mopping up."
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Indricotherium	Re: Blast Radius	#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 5777 20-Nov-07 20:20 Budda on an anthill	I think the rules state 2 HQs, though I'm not sure the rules don't state we can't take more... 2HQs Then we each take 1MT, 1HT, 1HQ... Muahahahaha! hmmm..... email to Fuzzy time! LSN:Indricotherium, GMT-5, League:Elite, Alliance:Doomed, Specialist:L.O.G.
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Indricotherium	Re: Blast Radius	#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 5777 20-Nov-07 20:22 Budda on an anthill	Drat. Look at the rule: *Quote:* Each player will have 6FP of mobile units to command. That clearly indicates that none of our FPs can be HQs. LSN:Indricotherium, GMT-5, League:Elite, Alliance:Doomed, Specialist:L.O.G.
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valkea	Re: Blast Radius	#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 794 20-Nov-07 20:39 Registered User	Alas! I wonder what a viable MT-heavy deployment would be then? How about something like: 2 players with: 1 MT & 2 FPs spent on XTs or HTs for defense. and 1 player the mobile scouting & HQ assasination section with: 1 scanner, 4 HTs? LSN NAME: valkea LOCATION:: Finland, GMT +2 ALLIANCE: Rogue Element. "Scanners scan, missiles spam, the rest is mopping up."
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Indricotherium	Re: Blast Radius	#6	[url]	[-]
Posts: 5777 20-Nov-07 20:55 Budda on an anthill	That sounds good, though we could maybe do: P1: 1MT, 2XT/HT for base defence P2: 1MT, 1Sc <--heads off with... P3: 6FP of XT/HT probably something like 1XT, 5HT. P2&P3 will have to cooperate but I think that will be fairly easy to do what with P2 only needing to control the Scanner and P3 having all the combat functions under his control. The 1XT would act to help defend the Sc as well as add a bit of punch if needed. As the Sc is the slowest of the lot, the XT won't even slow anyone down. Sent and email to OB, will PM him as well. LSN:Indricotherium, GMT-5, League:Elite, Alliance:Doomed, Specialist:L.O.G.
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Oddball	Re: Blast Radius	#7	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1775 21-Nov-07 15:35	i played this map agains mech at green and MTx2 Aix1 the rest flying mopeds and xts. forget the scanner blitz the map. scout down the right and blitz the middle and middle right with missiles
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Indricotherium	Re: Blast Radius	#8	[url]	[-]
Posts: 5777 21-Nov-07 15:45 Budda on an anthill	Heck, that sounds like a plan to me. Remember though that we will be on the Blue Side this game. Squad1: 1MT, 1XT, 1HT Squad2: 1MT, 2HT Squad3: 1 AI, 2HT 2HQs I figure the XT/HT of squad 1 will help hold the line with the MTs while Squad2's HTs aid Squad3 in heading in. Does this look good? Do we want to go 2XT, 4HT? And who wants to pilot the AI? LSN:Indricotherium, GMT-5, League:Elite, Alliance:Doomed, Specialist:L.O.G.
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Oddball	Re: Blast Radius	#9	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1775 21-Nov-07 15:54	the thing with xts on this map is they will be slow and we want speed. ht's only really needed to spot. down the bottom is a different story as only 1 viable location for bases to avoid an easy rush from marines or far enough away from MT barrage and thats the left corner. so i would go marines down the bottom. 2x sniper 1x medic 2x nader 2x commy 3x grunt +2 HQ and rush left side with snipers covering the right open zone from max range.
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Indricotherium	Re: Blast Radius	#10	[url]	[-]
Posts: 5777 21-Nov-07 17:09 Budda on an anthill	<looks at map, chews on post> Like so? Is this what we're thinking in general? If so, squads like this: Sq1: 1C, 1N, 1G Sq2: 1C, 1N, 1G Sq3: 2S, 1G, 1M or this: Sq1: 2C Sq2: 2N, 2G Sq3: 2S, 1G, 1M Feel free to dummy up map if I've got this wrong. LSN:Indricotherium, GMT-5, League:Elite, Alliance:Doomed, Specialist:L.O.G.
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Oddball	Re: Blast Radius	#11	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1775 21-Nov-07 17:49	your confusing me now! not hard i know.. 1 HQ MT by the 2 trees in deploy zone. 1 HQ behind double wall where u have HQ written. and start MT far right corner just to confuse the position they dont have a sniper. the HTs down where u have the letter S scouting.
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Oddball	Re: Blast Radius	#12	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1775 21-Nov-07 17:50	*Quote:* so i would go marines down the bottom. 2x sniper 1x medic 2x nader 2x commy 3x grunt +2 HQ and rush left side with snipers covering the right open zone from max range. thats was if we where deploying from Green
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Indricotherium	Re: Blast Radius	#13	[url]	[-]
Posts: 5777 21-Nov-07 18:04 Budda on an anthill	Okay, how does this look? If AI is up by the northern MT, it can shoot out the trees and a couple walls for better movement there. Would 1 HT be stationed over there for flank scouting or all 6 down at the bottom? LSN:Indricotherium, GMT-5, League:Elite, Alliance:Doomed, Specialist:L.O.G.
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valkea	Re: Blast Radius	#14	[url]	[-]
Posts: 794 21-Nov-07 19:48 Registered User	That looks pretty good to me I think the AI should go very close to the green deployment zone in the upper building, maybe right behind the double doors... and roll like a mad juggernaut to the enemy territory right after a few walls have been taken down. Blitzkrieg! If they have one HQ in the central building, it's quite possible for the AI to be in firing range of it in a couple of turns. If the enemy wants to concentrate on taking it down, that's quite fine too - as it will keep them busy for a turn or a few, and give the missiles time to do their job. If they go for MTs and HTs as well, it's quite possible they will try to sneak a few HTs round the left flank. I'd say maybe one XT guarding the right flank wouldn't be a bad idea, and maybe one HT there to help it. LSN NAME: valkea LOCATION:: Finland, GMT +2 ALLIANCE: Rogue Element. "Scanners scan, missiles spam, the rest is mopping up."
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Oddball	Re: Blast Radius	#15	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1775 22-Nov-07 10:56	how about 2 MT 2 AI 2 HT's or XT's?! yes indri AI up in north blow the walls out. then u can have one roll through the other landscape remodelling then move on. got to decide who takes wot? i'm easy harhar.. either way. could be something like me 2 MTs Val 1AI+ht/xt Indri 1AI+xt/ht or vice versa
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Indricotherium	Re: Blast Radius	#16	[url]	[-]
Posts: 5777 22-Nov-07 18:42 Budda on an anthill	Two things: 1) Thanksgiving today so after this msg I'm off to my Mother's for dinner with the family, probably not able to sneak online until tonight at the earliest. 2) 6fp limit per player, so no double tank squads. So we're stuck with 2MT, 1AI and 6 other. (+2HQs) Oddball knows from a previous Doomed game that I'm not the best with AIs, I say we stick the old APC driver with ours. Valkea and I will take an MT each. How about I take a XT/HT pair and you two take twin HTs. Val can slave his HTs to operate with Oddball's squad and I'll be responsible for flank security with mine. Should circumstances dictate I can advance easily enough. Think about where we want our MTs, maybe near each other so the first couple turns they stagger salvo (2 missiles per turn where 1 MT holds 1 sec at the beginning of the turn so the missiles clear the way for each other) deep into enemy territory. Then we can separate or whatever. Nitpick and make final decision without me if you can, I'll agree to whatever I find when I get back online. However, I think we have a plan. LSN:Indricotherium, GMT-5, League:Elite, Alliance:Doomed, Specialist:L.O.G.
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valkea	Re: Blast Radius	#17	[url]	[-]
Posts: 794 23-Nov-07 08:05 Registered User	Pretty much sums up my thoughts on the matter I agree that the MTs should probably start together. Probably in the central area, between the two buildings, and put the first volley of missiles close together, and timing one of them with a one second delay sounds like a good idea. Two potential problems come to mind: 1) The MTs hitting the AI by accident - which I think is just RW type of realism. We'll have to agree in advance what are the firing sectors, and where OB is going to advance. 2) The MTs running out of ammo, and there being a couple of turns silence after the first 10 missiles. The HQs are placed for maximum cover rather than quick reloading in mind. LSN NAME: valkea LOCATION:: Finland, GMT +2 ALLIANCE: Rogue Element. "Scanners scan, missiles spam, the rest is mopping up."
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valkea	Re: Blast Radius	#18	[url]	[-]
Posts: 794 23-Nov-07 10:03 Registered User	ooohhh... an idea emerges in my flesh-hating mechanical brain. How about labelling each building with a letter, and each room in each building with a number? It would make it so much easier to discuss who's doing what: Unit agjklg-AI about to enter sectors A1 & A2 Unit XZ-MT1-blaa blaa commencing missile bombardment of sector A3, and blowing it to kingdom come and so on... LSN NAME: valkea LOCATION:: Finland, GMT +2 ALLIANCE: Rogue Element. "Scanners scan, missiles spam, the rest is mopping up."
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Oddball	Re: Blast Radius	#19	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1775 23-Nov-07 10:52	i say only fire the one MT at turn one if your keeping close then u have 2 missiles left while the other reloads and cover when MT2 is moving to reload. also puts them into a false sense of security thinking 1 MT. i would even go as far as holding it for 1.5 turns.

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