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RagmanPD	New belt idea		Lead	[-]
Posts: 876 8-Apr-07 00:23 Security Conscious	Tags : None the holder plays marines and the challenger plays spawn. ( vs ) on Attrition. The holder has 30 FP and the challenger has 20 FP, but every game after the challenger only deploys the survivors(obviously this needs the T-Method). The map is Attrition and it is 20 turns and 15 day games. LSN-Ragman League-Veteran
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RagmanPD	Re: New belt idea	#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 876 8-Apr-07 00:32 Security Conscious	wait I messed up. If the holder wins then he deploys his squads survivors. LSN-Ragman League-Veteran
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Jaques Cartier	Re: New belt idea	#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 5048 8-Apr-07 07:52 French? Moi?	Erm... I hate to bash your idea, but ring of goo is awfully similiar to this (the map only is the stand and fps don't vary). LSN: Mr Cartier League:High Elite GMT:+2 - A knight is sworn to valor. His heart knows only virtue. His blade defends the helpless. His might upholds the weak. His word speaks only truth. His wrath undoes the wicked. DTWDoG
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Duke Garland	Re: New belt idea	#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2779 8-Apr-07 10:48 Blutkind	the big difference betwean this and ring of goo is that for next defence challenger can only deploy those guys that survived previous game. that's a big difference. AFAIK there's no competitions with such conditions yet. what's good is that it gets very hard to hold enough number of defences to get a plate. life of every soldier would be extremely important. what's bad is that it's not quite fair to challengers. for example, in first defence holder will have 30FP that will easily beat challenger's 20FP (i.e. first few defences are biased in holder's side), but in 5th or 6th defence he will only have a small pathetic crowd and it won't be big problem for challenger. as you can see, challengers are not in equal positions. that's why i think it's a bad idea for a belt. however this could be done in some other format... p.s. could some nice mods move this to Tournaments, Competitions and Belts (General discussion) LSN Name: Duke Garland Alliance: Rock'n'Roll Suicides (captain) Location: Ukraine, GMT+2 Specialist: League of Ordinary Gentlemen The logic of war seems to be that if a belligerent can fight, he will fight - Rudy R.
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pickupsticks	Re: New belt idea	#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 5397 8-Apr-07 12:56 Tori Fan	Sounds kinda like a cross between Ian's attrition belt and Arakis' diminishing returns belt. There was some discussion in each of those threads that may be relevent here... especially, I'd say, Hero Boy's thoughts on relative force sizes. It's an interesting idea, though (that reminds me, I should go and sign up for the Ring of Goo again)
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RagmanPD	Re: New belt idea	#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 876 8-Apr-07 15:32 Security Conscious	Maybe its 25 on 20 but they only get one commie and one sniper? LSN-Ragman League-Veteran
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Dancing Destroyer	Re: New belt idea	#6	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1660 12-Apr-07 09:11 Revolutionary User	I don't think the commie sniper stipulation would work - I don't think many players would take more than one commie if they knew they were facing spawn anyway, and they probably wouldn't take a sniper at all. I like the idea, but I agree with Duke's comments - it's a bit too hard on the challengers to start off with. Perhaps a belt where the challenger and the holder play three games, with the holder only keeping survivors while the challenger starts afresh. Then you just have the problem of keeping people interested for a long time while the games play out... Hmm... tricky. We can dance if we want to\|We can leave your friends behind 'Cause your friends don't dance and if they don't dance\|Well they're no friends of mine LSN: Dancing Destroyer Time: GMT Alliance: Cursed Clowns Spec: L.O.G.
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Duke Garland	Re: New belt idea	#7	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2779 12-Apr-07 10:28 Blutkind	as i said, league-type competition instead of belt... LSN Name: Duke Garland Alliance: Rock'n'Roll Suicides (captain) Location: Ukraine, GMT+2 Specialist: League of Ordinary Gentlemen The logic of war seems to be that if a belligerent can fight, he will fight - Rudy R.
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RagmanPD	Re: New belt idea	#8	[url]	[-]
Posts: 876 13-Apr-07 23:58 Security Conscious	Yeah, I think I'll give up on this one. I like the Alcatraz idea better, and I'm trying to simplify it. LSN-Ragman League-Veteran
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