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Hero Boy	New LSN income model		Lead	[-]
Posts: 3401 17-Jun-08 15:33 BeltBoy	Tags : None It's obvious that things are getting pretty quiet in LSN now. Soon the income won't even match the server fees... What we (and Julian) need is a new income model based on advertising. I'm not sure exactly how this will work but this guy seems to have figured it out... http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000872.html And by making the game free it would attract more recruits, encourage old timers to dabble once again and inject new life in the game ! Discuss. Last Edited By: Hero Boy 17-Jun-08 15:35. Edited 1 time.
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Jaques Cartier		#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 5079 17-Jun-08 18:50 French? Moi?	If there would be a possibility of double, triple, quadruple or even more the amount of players by seeing couple of adverts in the side of my screen out of the way while I'm on web interface etc. and dropping out the payments altogether, I'd gladly do the trade! LSN: Mr Cartier League:High Elite GMT:+2 - A knight is sworn to valor. His heart knows only virtue. His blade defends the helpless. His might upholds the weak. His word speaks only truth. His wrath undoes the wicked. DTWDoG
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ThSpartanSlayer		#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 6 17-Jun-08 19:51	I second that. I think that good traffic would be needed for it to be productive. If we got the pay per click ads on the site I could just click on those for half an hour every day.
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valkea		#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 790 17-Jun-08 20:15 Registered User	The play by e-mail is one crucial difference between LSN and the Desktop Tower Defence, and I think LSN would have to be browser-based and more accesible for that model to work - remembering all the noobs who never deploy, when you try the recruitment and training. Just my two cents.... LSN NAME: valkea LOCATION:: Finland, GMT +2 ALLIANCE: Rogue Element. "Scanners scan, missiles spam, the rest is mopping up."
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Indricotherium		#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 5756 17-Jun-08 20:35 Budda on an anthill	I'm willing to see just about anything tied. LSN:Indricotherium, GMT-5, League:Elite, Alliance:Doomed, Specialist:L.O.G.
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Brootal		#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3440 18-Jun-08 00:44 Speen Demon	we don't want to know about your kinky games indri LSN: Brootal Alliance wants you!
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Zwack again		#6	[url]	[-]
Posts: 21 18-Jun-08 12:50	Something's definitely needed. To be honest I've stopped noticing the ads on the Yuku forum now so the fact that they're there doesn't bother me at all. Similar ads on the web interface would probably end up just as transparent after a while. I agree with valkea in that the number of unfinished games would skyrocket but in the end I'd rather end up having to start 10 games in order to get 5 that go all the way to the finish than see the slow lingering decline we have now. Cheers, Zwack
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TOMU		#7	[url]	[-]
Posts: 669 18-Jun-08 15:02	I don't like ads, but this game is slowly dying, which is a great shame. I would much rather have a healthy LSN with ads than a suffering one without them.
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Ugly Toy		#8	[url]	[-]
Posts: 4585 18-Jun-08 16:25	PC Gamer (or Zone?) have quite a thing for LSN, it was through a PC mag that I learned about this game. If they were to find out that LSN was now ad supported and free you'd get a bunch of free advertising right there, along with a bunch of new players. Something to keep in mind should JG decide to go that way. Alliance Clan: 99ers \| Scalps \| My Blog \| Maybe NSFW Blog
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vom2		#9	[url]	[-]
Posts: 773 19-Jun-08 00:09 HQ not moving this turn	i don't think it matters what ideas we come up with, with JG not even posting on the forums we have little or no chance of getting anything done. the game obviously needs an advertising drive of some sort, but i feel this has to be initiated by JG i only started playing 2 years ago, so the market is still out there. lsn is unique, but with no support the game will die we need JG to post here so we know he is listening to our ideas lsn name: vom
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Lollingsgrad		#10	[url]	[-]
Posts: 16 20-Jun-08 08:54	I say why not. I'd like to see this game stay alive. What you should do is not send turn files in the notification e-mails, and have those AdSense adverts in the LSN user page where they'd have to go to download their moves. That would ensure that all your users were exposed to the adverts as regularly as they play the game, and it would be only marginally less convenient than it is now, which is worth it to have more players in the community. I'll make sure I click lots of ads for you. I don't need intelligence drugs, Tom. Because I don't know what they are. Okay, Tom? But I will put anything in my mouth that's given to me. Whether it's supposed to go there or not. Because I'm different.
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Hero Boy		#11	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3402 20-Jun-08 10:59 BeltBoy	Yup. That'd be my choice of solution as well... I really think that there would be alot alot more people playing LSN if it was free.
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smart bunny		#12	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3864 20-Jun-08 12:29 One by one, the penguins take my sanity	Sounds good to me. I can easily ignore a few adverts and click on stuff when necessary if it revives LSN!!!
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Jaques Cartier		#13	[url]	[-]
Posts: 5084 22-Jun-08 13:26 French? Moi?	I'd definately do that if it'd get more students for me! LSN: Mr Cartier League:High Elite GMT:+2 - A knight is sworn to valor. His heart knows only virtue. His blade defends the helpless. His might upholds the weak. His word speaks only truth. His wrath undoes the wicked. DTWDoG
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Duke Garland		#14	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2797 23-Jun-08 19:19 Blutkind	i do like this idea. free lsn = 5x times more players. i'll block ads in my browser anyway, so i don't care. However. Desktop Tower Defense has hundreds of thousands pageviews per day. Even if LSN goes free, even with 5 times more players, there will be about 100 times less pageviews. $100 per month would be average deal for codo, i think. barely covers hosting costs. LSN Name: Duke Garland Alliance: Rock'n'Roll Suicides (captain) Location: Ukraine, GMT+2 Specialist: League of Ordinary Gentlemen (captain) The logic of war seems to be that if a belligerent can fight, he will fight - Rudy R.
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General Strike		#15	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1764 24-Jun-08 08:03	Duke Garland wrote: i'll block ads in my browser anyway, so i don't care. Isn't this the whole problem with advertising based games. Over the next few years I can see a few going to the wall due to ad blocking. Either that or it becoming an arms race with the site pages only loading once the adverts have, which will make the whole thing worse than before adblock existed. For instance the pages on this site load very slowly due to waiting for the ads but at least at present you can start reading the page before they appear. LSN Name: General Strike \| League: Elite \| Alliance Clan: 99ers(Captain) \| Time Zone: GMT Holder of record for shortest time in elite (0 games) One League to rule them all One League whence to find them One League to rate them all Elite to Rookie, Grind them (With apologies to J.R.R.Tolkien)
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Duke Garland		#16	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2798 24-Jun-08 21:45 Blutkind	General Strike said: For instance the pages on this site load very slowly due to waiting for the ads. Not for me But you're right anyway. Models based on ads are quite vulnerable on this. LSN Name: Duke Garland Alliance: Rock'n'Roll Suicides (captain) Location: Ukraine, GMT+2 Specialist: League of Ordinary Gentlemen (captain) The logic of war seems to be that if a belligerent can fight, he will fight - Rudy R.
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TOMU		#17	[url]	[-]
Posts: 670 25-Jun-08 11:41	I think the assessment that LSN will continue to die slowly unless something along these lines is done, is correct. The game is great, and unique, but there are a lot of free webgames out there and so the cost of LSN is going to deter most potential newcomers. On the other hand if we do go for the advertising 'solution', it is possible it will blow up in our faces - it might result in only a small inrease in players and the ad revenue would be then be significantly less than codo take at the moment. If that were the case the whole thing might fold. However, seeing as its days are numbered (nobody knows what that number is), it is probably worth a try.
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Indricotherium		#18	[url]	[-]
Posts: 5760 25-Jun-08 13:39 Budda on an anthill	FWIW I'd continue to suscribe AND put up with ads if it could build Julian's revenue to the point where he wants to pay some attention to us. I know that's not a real solution to the player issue but I can't be the only one who sometimes feels like he's looking about a sinking ship that he'd rather save than leave. Perhaps free players would have access to Marines and perhaps Machina only and paying subs would get Spawn and Greys in addition. That way freebies could participate in, for example, the Cyborg League without feeling left out (TBH, they'd be good to go in anything that didn't require Spawn or Greys as each race is fairly balanced IMO). Leave everything else wide open. No turn limits, map limits, etc... LSN:Indricotherium, GMT-5, League:Elite, Alliance:Doomed, Specialist:L.O.G.
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Duke Garland		#19	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2799 25-Jun-08 17:36 Blutkind	There's no map limits long ago. Turn limits are kind of vague as you can just abandon current trial account and start another and i know a lot of people are doing like this LSN Name: Duke Garland Alliance: Rock'n'Roll Suicides (captain) Location: Ukraine, GMT+2 Specialist: League of Ordinary Gentlemen (captain) The logic of war seems to be that if a belligerent can fight, he will fight - Rudy R.
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vom2		#20	[url]	[-]
Posts: 777 26-Jun-08 01:02 HQ not moving this turn	like indri i'll sub & play right till the end, though that's what it's looking like. does anyone know how much the server costs to run every month? is anyone in contact with JG? lsn name: vom

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