LSN Development news http://codogames.yuku.com/topic/4196/t/LSN-Development-news.html en-us Copyright 2006, Yuku feeds@yuku.com (FeedMaster) webmaster@yuku.com (WebMaster) Wed, 29 Mar 2006 12:31:07 GMT Tue, 18 Apr 2006 18:56:11 GMT Yuku Feeds 1.0 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss 60 Yuku http://static.yuku.com//feed/bypass/images/button-yuku.png http://codogames.yuku.com/topic/4196/t/LSN-Development-news.html Yuku - free hosted forums and profiles 88 31 {pics-1.1 "http://www.icra.org/ratingsv02.html" l gen true for "http://yuku.com" r (nz 1 vz 1 lz 1 oz 1 cz 1 ) "http://www.rsac.org/ratingsv01.html" l gen true for "http://yuku.com" r (n 0 s 0 v 0 l 0 )) Search Search Domain q http://yuku.com/search/direct/ <![CDATA[ Re: LSN Development news ]]> http://codogames.yuku.com/reply/65679/t/LSN-Development-news.html#reply-65679 Alliance Divison 1 clan - Anaraknaphobia feeds@yuku.com (rainman999) http://codogames.yuku.com/sreply/65679 Tue, 18 Apr 2006 18:56:11 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: LSN Development news ]]> http://codogames.yuku.com/reply/65678/t/LSN-Development-news.html#reply-65678 We don't mind if the file structure is understood at all.
As I remember there is nothing in the files that isn't seen in the client except the character IDs.

Steve ]]> feeds@yuku.com (StephenCoda) http://codogames.yuku.com/sreply/65678 Fri, 14 Apr 2006 16:58:57 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: LSN Development news ]]> http://codogames.yuku.com/reply/65677/t/LSN-Development-news.html#reply-65677
Also, although I too believe Fuzzy uses his powers only for good, I agree that in an ideal world it would be impossible for more information... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Tharg) http://codogames.yuku.com/sreply/65677 Thu, 13 Apr 2006 10:07:22 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: LSN Development news ]]> http://codogames.yuku.com/reply/65676/t/LSN-Development-news.html#reply-65676
How`s about somebody (the developers) publish the turn file contents and explains exactly what is in there? After that we can vote on what should and shouldn`t be in there, based upon what the developers say what needs to be in there.

I think it`s very important with the LSN model that the game is perceived to be a level playing field- which is one reason why I think the test orders fixes are so good as... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (axemandavva) http://codogames.yuku.com/sreply/65676 Thu, 13 Apr 2006 09:23:07 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: LSN Development news ]]> http://codogames.yuku.com/reply/65675/t/LSN-Development-news.html#reply-65675
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Whether or not anyone uses this currently doesn`t matter- if it`s there it could be exploited by somebody. That there is other information hidden in the turn file that could be advantageous is not a good arguement not to fix this hole, IMO.


I agree with this in principle, but there are three different directions you can go with it:

1) Leave the "extra"... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Fuzzywinker) http://codogames.yuku.com/sreply/65675 Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:58:10 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: LSN Development news ]]> http://codogames.yuku.com/reply/65674/t/LSN-Development-news.html#reply-65674
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There are a number of areas in which the turn file gives information that is not shown in the client. The fact that I've figured out some of the turn file format (but have never used in on a game in progress) doesn't change how many (if any) other people already can/do extract this information on running games to their advantage, so it I don't think it follows that we have to make names visible to both players. Nothing... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (axemandavva) http://codogames.yuku.com/sreply/65674 Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:13:47 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: LSN Development news ]]> http://codogames.yuku.com/reply/65673/t/LSN-Development-news.html#reply-65673 :rolleyes

LSN Name: Duke Garland
feeds@yuku.com (Duke Garland) http://codogames.yuku.com/sreply/65673 Wed, 12 Apr 2006 07:46:32 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: LSN Development news ]]> http://codogames.yuku.com/reply/65672/t/LSN-Development-news.html#reply-65672 :bibl
I knocked, you were out. -- Opportunity

feeds@yuku.com (fletch j) http://codogames.yuku.com/sreply/65672 Wed, 12 Apr 2006 05:04:46 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: LSN Development news ]]> http://codogames.yuku.com/reply/65671/t/LSN-Development-news.html#reply-65671 :)
LSN:Indricotherium, GMT-5, League:Elite, Alliance:Doomed, Specialist:L.O.G.
You try to add a plastic tree to the barricade, but can't find a place for... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Indricotherium) http://codogames.yuku.com/sreply/65671 Wed, 12 Apr 2006 01:28:30 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: LSN Development news ]]> http://codogames.yuku.com/reply/65670/t/LSN-Development-news.html#reply-65670
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What exactly is in the turn file- can you find out about your opponents units that are not visible?


No, when an opponent's unit leaves LOS, the turn file stops giving you updates about that unit. However, when that unit re-appears, you can tell which one it is because each unit has a unique ID that remains constant throughout the game.

feeds@yuku.com (Fuzzywinker) http://codogames.yuku.com/sreply/65670 Tue, 11 Apr 2006 23:40:55 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: LSN Development news ]]> http://codogames.yuku.com/reply/65680/t/LSN-Development-news.html#reply-65680
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For the folks who are worried about the names being in the turn files: It's already possible to tell your opponent's units apart from the information in the turn file you receive. Having the names in the turn files won't make it appreciably easier.

actually, i knew that you can tell that from hex code... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Duke Garland) http://codogames.yuku.com/sreply/65680 Tue, 11 Apr 2006 21:23:24 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: LSN Development news ]]> http://codogames.yuku.com/reply/65669/t/LSN-Development-news.html#reply-65669
Or maybe create a whole new league out of this. :) feeds@yuku.com (Eagle of Fire) http://codogames.yuku.com/sreply/65669 Tue, 11 Apr 2006 20:26:59 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: LSN Development news ]]> http://codogames.yuku.com/reply/65668/t/LSN-Development-news.html#reply-65668 As for default name lists, the only limit will be the number of experience points alloted by the server divided by the cost of the cheapest unit type and the space left on your hard drive :)

]]> feeds@yuku.com (StephenCoda) http://codogames.yuku.com/sreply/65668 Tue, 11 Apr 2006 20:21:54 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: LSN Development news ]]> http://codogames.yuku.com/reply/65667/t/LSN-Development-news.html#reply-65667
And is anyone seriously suggesting you SHOULD be able to rename units once a game starts?... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (ZwackInc) http://codogames.yuku.com/sreply/65667 Tue, 11 Apr 2006 10:33:40 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: LSN Development news ]]> http://codogames.yuku.com/reply/65666/t/LSN-Development-news.html#reply-65666 LSN Name: feeds@yuku.com (Ugly Toy) http://codogames.yuku.com/sreply/65666 Tue, 11 Apr 2006 09:44:57 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: LSN Development news ]]> http://codogames.yuku.com/reply/65665/t/LSN-Development-news.html#reply-65665
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For the folks who are worried about the names being in the turn files: It's already possible to tell your opponent's units apart from the information in the turn file you receive. Having the names in the turn files won't make it appreciably easier.


if that`s the case then let all names be visible to both players as it levels the playing field between those who are willing to... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (axemandavva) http://codogames.yuku.com/sreply/65665 Tue, 11 Apr 2006 09:02:56 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: LSN Development news ]]> http://codogames.yuku.com/reply/65664/t/LSN-Development-news.html#reply-65664
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The server will know the names, so it's possible that your names could be sent to opponents. But should we?


I don't think the client should show the opponent's troops' names, but if the names are not in the turn files, then they're not in the wholegame, and then other people who you share the wholegame with will not know which grunt was named what. Heck, you might not even... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Fuzzywinker) http://codogames.yuku.com/sreply/65664 Tue, 11 Apr 2006 05:44:47 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: LSN Development news ]]> http://codogames.yuku.com/reply/65663/t/LSN-Development-news.html#reply-65663 :lol
LSN:Indricotherium, GMT-5, League:Elite, Alliance:Doomed, Specialist:L.O.G.
You try to add a plastic tree to the barricade, but can't find a place for it.
 feeds@yuku.com (Indricotherium) http://codogames.yuku.com/sreply/65663 Tue, 11 Apr 2006 04:57:17 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: LSN Development news ]]> http://codogames.yuku.com/reply/65662/t/LSN-Development-news.html#reply-65662
Medal of Bravery awarded to Flying Toaster for falling down to one HP and surviving the fight.
Mainframe #2 get promoted to Colonel for it's active service record (killed 5 units).

 feeds@yuku.com (Eagle of Fire) http://codogames.yuku.com/sreply/65662 Tue, 11 Apr 2006 04:17:51 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: LSN Development news ]]> http://codogames.yuku.com/reply/65661/t/LSN-Development-news.html#reply-65661 :)
LSN:Indricotherium, GMT-5, League:Elite, Alliance:Doomed, Specialist:L.O.G.
You try to add a plastic tree to the barricade,... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Indricotherium) http://codogames.yuku.com/sreply/65661 Tue, 11 Apr 2006 03:51:09 GMT <![CDATA[ LSN Development news ]]> http://codogames.yuku.com/topic/4196/t/LSN-Development-news.html Here is what we have done so far:
1. The 3 major exploits are fixed
2. The accuracy of the 'test orders' has been dramatically improved.
3. Map admin system is done, and should be updated before next release anyhow.

Some things we are considering now:
1. Addition of some music tracks - to add atmosphere
2. Free trial players can play against other races, and on all maps, and can compete in league. They can only choose marines... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Julian C Gollop) http://codogames.yuku.com/topic/4196 Wed, 29 Mar 2006 12:31:07 GMT